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"We never treated them like children but like extra added friends. And they have always held up their part of the deal. It was never like, 'We know better because we're the parents'. It was more like, 'This is the first time we've ever done this too. What do you think?' And the children were so wise. If we made a mistake, we made it together. But if you open yourself up, a way presents itself. You find the right path."
Heart Phoenix on her five children.
"We respect our parents and they respect us. Even when we were younger, it was never, "Well, I'm the parent and you're the kid". You wouldn't be held back because of your age. Just the opposite. My father used to say, "The youngest gets to yell the loudest because they're never listened to!" My father talks to Summer, who is the youngest, the way he talks to my grandfather or anyone else. They always gave us a fair shot."
"My life certainly hasn't been ordinary: different is the word. It hasn't always been stable - except in the important things which are love and security within the family. Whenever there were strains at home, we could always communicate. The rule was that the younger you were, the louder you were allowed to scream. As the eldest, I just talked."